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DNP

Discussion in 'Foods, Drinks, & Cooking' started by Private_Ale, May 17, 2015.

  1. Private_Ale

    Private_Ale King Neckbeard

    I came across a DNP thread on 4chan /fit/ and decided to read the "official" guide.

    It's pretty humorous: http://pastebin.com/yj19FSbF
    Durgs are bad, mkay? :iderpit:

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        Hungry on 2,4 Dinitrophenol or DNP
        
        GENERAL INFO
        
        DNP is a chemical that does not occur in nature. Historically, it has served many purposes. It has been used to make herbicides, explosives, and works as an industrial dye. It can be also used for rapid fat loss.
        
        - DNP is by far the most potent fat loss agent available. Nothing even comes close to comparing. Not clen, alb, EC, yohimbine, nothing.
        - DNP is by far the most dangerous drug available to dieters.
        - DNP increases your metabolism. One animal study showed a 64% increase in metabolism. The rate of metabolic increase is dose dependent. Formula: (dose/10)%, after full saturation.
        - The primary side effect is heat. Another notable side effect is lethargy. The intensity of the heat, sweating, and lethargy is dose dependent.
        - If you overdose, you will absolutely 100% positively die.
        - DNP allows you to lose 1lb of pure fat every 1-3 days depending upon your dose.
        
        MORE INFO
        - Consuming carbs will increase the intensity of the heat for 1-3 hours afterwards.
        - DNP is usually capped as either crystal or powder. Figure out which you have. 250mg crystal = 187.5mg powder
        - DNP will cause temporary water retention and glycogen depletion, making you look bloated with flat muscles (really great look). Within one week of cessation, this should be gone.
        
        RULES FOR USE
        
        - It's recommended not to take DNP on an empty stomach. This may cause nausea, diarrhoea and vomiting in some users. Experiment with it. If you vomit while on DNP, it is recommended you discontinue use and focus on properly rehydrating for AT LEAST 24 hours.
        - If you're on DNP, drink at least 3 liters (1 gallon) of water per day, more if you're sweating profusely. DNP blunts thirst. Be sure to get electrolytes and potassium in as well. V8 juice is a good source for this.
        - Consuming an isocaloric diet at maintenance calories is standard practice.  Eating pineapple is recommended for it’s fructose and digestive enzymes.
        - ALWAYS start your first cycle at 200mg(powder) or 250mg(crystal) per day, then increase after 4 days OR keep it that way for the whole cycle.
        - Risk of serious long term side effects increases along with dose and length of administration. Keep the cycle length under 3 weeks, especially if using a dose above 500mg/day.
        - Don't drink alcohol or YOU WILL DIE - even after you stop taking DNP - look below for blood concentration after a typical 21 day cycle. Wait at least a week (on < 500mg ED, more if on 750mg+)
        - Don't take more than 1 gram per day or YOU WILL DIE.
        - Don't overheat or YOU WILL DIE.
        - Don't go into a sauna or YOU WILL FOR SURE DIE.
        - If you start feeling pins and needles in your extremities (hands/feet), they appear bloated and swollen and you start losing sensitivity, you got PN: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_neuropathy
                - Drop DNP and blast NAC for a few weeks. Switch to a pure ketogenic diet (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gZfJejOM8fJsX1iCilmnpp1qmT_KncJwWCR4-EsaEHc/edit?pli=1) and keep it until the symptoms of PN are gone. 6-8 months later you should be able to use DNP again
        - Keep an anti-histamine on hand (ex: Benadryl). If you start getting hives/rashes on your first cycle, get off DNP and blast Benadryl for a couple weeks. After that, take 2 weeks of pause, then start cruising the anti-histamine about 3 days before starting with DNP and continue it all the way through the cycle, until 1 week after the last DNP pill.
        
        Supplements (daily):
        - 2g Vitamin C (antioxidant)
        - 800iu Vitamin E (antioxidant)
        - 1-2grams Pyruvate (may help prevent cataracts)
        - 600mg NAC (N-Acetyl Cysteine) (liver support, may help prevent PN and cataracts)
        
        Optional but recommended:
        - Potassium gluconoate (prevent cramping)
        - Magenesium (antioxidant)
        - Taurine (prevent cramping)
        - Grape seed extract (antioxidant)
        - Selenium (antioxidant)
        - Alpha Lipoic Acid (antioxidant)
        - Melatonin (helps you sleep through night sweats)
        - V8 juice (250ml ED)
        
        HELPFUL TIDBITS
        
        - It is not recommended to take DNP during the summer or in a particularly warm climate
        - DNP has a 36 hour half life, meaning it accumulates in your system. Check out these graphs for a better understanding of blood concentrations and effect on BMR:
                        - http://i.imgur.com/TUGgzjn.jpg
                        - http://i.imgur.com/zy9v7gG.jpg
        - This shows a typical 21-day cycle on various doses. Note the blood concentration after you stop taking DNP - it remains high so don't do anything silly like drink Alcohol:
                        - http://i.imgur.com/OVAgNlS.png
                        - note that even though you're taking 500mg a day, you start to build up 1350mg of DNP in your blood.
        - When running a low dose, just because you do not feel the heat right away does not mean DNP is not working. It can take up to 5 days to build up in your system. Do not be impatient or aggressive. This is a dangerous drug.
        - If you are a fat fuck and don’t know how to diet, DNP will not help you. Because once you’re off DNP and have lost weight, you will get fat again because you do not know how to eat and how your BMR changes with weight loss. Learn to diet properly through calorie counting and caloric deficit or DNP will just be a miserable waste of time for you.
        - Other side effects may include sore/dry throat, insomnia, nausea, headaches, or even yellow vision (obviously if you get yellow vision then you need to stop fucking taking DNP). Most other side effects are a result of dehydration.
        - I’ve read online the fat to muscle loss ratio on DNP is 9:1 (not verified).
        - EC stack or YC stack can help combat lethargy. EC is especially good at suppressing hunger.
        - Working out should be fine on low doses (200/250mg per day). At 400mg+, you will want to keep workouts short and sweet. Do not lift to failure. Reduce weight and volume if you need to. You will not grow on DNP.
        - Cardio is optional at low doses and not recommended at high doses. Sweat from cardio expends water and electrolytes in great numbers. DNP blunts thirst. This is a deadly combination at high doses.
        - If you’re taking other medications, do your homework on possible drug interactions beforehand. This could save your life.
        
        
        SAFETY INFO
        
        Short term, DNP is extremely dangerous as an overdose can kill you very quickly and THERE IS NO ANTIDOTE. If you find yourself overheating beyond control, GET INTO AN ICE TUB AND CALL AN AMBULANCE so that paramedics can watch you die.
        
        Long term, no one knows for sure how safe DNP is. Anyone who claims one way or another is lying or overextending data. No one studies DNP now because it is not approved for human use in almost any medicinal application.
        
        However, some ambitious people have put together a collection of all studies where DNP was involved. Many are old (1930s). These can reviewed in the resources links below. My personal take on the data is that short term, non-chronic use of DNP seems to pose little long term health risks. The primary concerns post-cycle are around cataracts and the impact of free radical spike as a result of extremely rapid fat oxidation. We can hope to mitigate these, at least in part, through proper supplementation.
        
        WHY TAKE DNP?
        
        You must weigh risk vs. reward. The answer is different for everyone. Personally, I made about 1 months progress in 6 days on 500mg/day crystal with 16/8 IF and yohimbine + caffeine in the morning. I had zero hormonal feedback (down regulation in natural anabolic hormones from prolonged calorie deficit). For fat loss, DNP is unbeatable.
        
        
        EXCELLENT RESOURCES FOR READING
        
        Animal’s posts
        http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/articles-forum/1834-dnp-all-info-here.html
        
        T-NATION Everything DNP
        http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_gear/everything_about_dnp_24dinitrophenol
        
        
        
        APPROVED & RECOMMENDED INTERNATIONAL SOURCES:
        - Dinitro (at AnonymousSpeech dot com) - US-Based.
        - Yellowbot (at safe(hyphen)mail dot net) - Austria-Based.
    
        
        UNKNOWN  SOURCES:
        - BH (alldemgainzz at safe(hyphen)mail dot net) - Gear and DNP, US-based
        - BenderBot (BenderBot at safe(hyphen)mail dot net) - DNP, US-based
        - DNPChemist (at safe(hyphen)mail dot net) - US-Based.
        
        SCAMMER:
        - Frank (talktofrank at safe(hyphen)mail dot net) - /fit/ specific source, UK-based
        
        CONFIRMED BUNKS:
        - dinitroshop - Ukraine-based
        
        UNDERDOSED:
        - Doctor Muscle - Gear and DNP, UK-based
        
        LIKELY OVERDOSED:
        - D-Hacks
        
        Special mention:
        - yellowfever (at safehyphenmail dot net) (Back on hiatus, may or may not continue being a supplier, keep a look out.)
        
        Guide authors:
        — Hungry: Find me samefagging my own threads of /fit/ on you have questions and I will try my best to help you
        - FormerFatty: Lurking /fit/ DNP threads, reddit DNP threads and other forums' DNP threads since the beginning of time
        - Random Anons
     
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  2. Afronaught

    Afronaught ♫ Official Princess ♫

    This stuff is real?
     
  3. Private_Ale

    Private_Ale King Neckbeard

    DNP?

    Yeah, apparently so. Somewhat interesting, I also just recently seen a CSI:NY episode focused around it.
     
  4. Private_Ale

    Private_Ale King Neckbeard

    You have to admit though, it sounds very attractive. 6 months of progress in 2 weeks.

    I'm always warm though, so it would probably just straight up kill me. :p
     
  5. jundies

    jundies Well-Known Member

    I currently weigh more than I have ever in my life. It looks tempting. Very tempting. Lol
     
  6. Private_Ale

    Private_Ale King Neckbeard

    You have a little person who relies on you now. No risky business for you anymore. :)
     
  7. jundies

    jundies Well-Known Member

    Okay. How about you move over here and we workout together until we are hot
     
  8. Private_Ale

    Private_Ale King Neckbeard

    I'm already hot-hot and it's only 90F. :p

    * Private_Ale would die in California
     
  9. jundies

    jundies Well-Known Member

    Ok let's go to Seattle
     
  10. Void

    Void ZXC-79523

    I start training again today ....

    .... i just can't get back into it .... in the absence of a goal other than "looking good" i find motivation is lacking ...

    I use to train like 5 to 7 times a week .... DAMN YOU KNEES! lol. sigh.
     
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  11. jundies

    jundies Well-Known Member

    :ilickit:You always look good. Mmmmm :irapeit:
     
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  12. Private_Ale

    Private_Ale King Neckbeard

    I said it before: Void is a Greek God.
     
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  13. Void

    Void ZXC-79523

    Lmao.

    Void is a computer geek and has no such status.

    I also look completely different, my hair is really short and i'm like 40% grey .... lmao.

    The blond streaks where just highlights ....

    Where is your god now! :p
     
  14. Private_Ale

    Private_Ale King Neckbeard

    Don't be modest Zeus

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Void

    Void ZXC-79523

    so my girlfriend convinced me to join a gym, lol.

    .... today was day one.
     
  16. jundies

    jundies Well-Known Member

    Picture or gtfo. :irapeit:
     
  17. Private_Ale

    Private_Ale King Neckbeard

  18. Afronaught

    Afronaught ♫ Official Princess ♫

    Seriously He's Hot.. I've seen him... and I'd Tap him twice in the Shower and once in the morning before Breakfast. :D
     
  19. Void

    Void ZXC-79523

    Sounds like a plan brah! let's lift some weights bru!

    :p

    haha, i hate taking pictures of myself. I'll look around for something, or take a pic at some point. Especially because i look so much different (short grey hair) :D


    Good camera angle maybe? I dunno ....

    ..... so i'll need an address .... :p
     
  20. jundies

    jundies Well-Known Member

    I heard Afro lives in Los Angeles now. Just come in the lights are off. :bleh:
     
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  21. Void

    Void ZXC-79523

    lol, sounds like a party! :cunning:
     
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