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Discussion in 'Social Issues' started by Private_Ale, Feb 13, 2008.

  1. Private_Ale

    Private_Ale King Neckbeard

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  2. StuPot

    StuPot Blah blah blah

    I can watch almost anything without It bothering me but I was wincing while watching that.. yup.. that was pretty hard to watch all the way through. I'm starting to rethink my views on abortion too.
  3. Heero Valentine

    Heero Valentine Failed Abortion

    that was pretty easy to watch, i can take almost anything so that wasn't a problem...
    that looked pretty painful for the woman, though didn't change my view on the subject...

    btw did you see the at the top of the video?
    "if you enjoyed this video, you will love Brandi Bell!"

    how is some kind of porn site thingy connected with enjoying an abortion?
  4. Dreamer

    Dreamer Well-Known Member

    that was fucking nasty but I am still pro choice.

    you shoud post that on the WBLIVESURF forums

    they would get a kick out of it
  5. SurfSarge

    SurfSarge misfit

    Yeah right..:2funny: I already get enough shit over there.
  6. Tinkerbell

    Tinkerbell Well-Known Member

    I thought it was a scene from Aliens. It made me feel bad for having had 23 abortions........J.K. I don't feel bad.
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  7. Dreamer

    Dreamer Well-Known Member

  8. Butterz

    Butterz Well-Known Member

    I'm glad my wife and I never killed any of our kids. :cool:

    How can anyone claim that's not a human? What is it then? A squirrel?

    So sad, murder for convenience...Satan's having an orgasm for sure.
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  9. asdf

    asdf Harry Scagnetti

  10. Anepitaph

    Anepitaph Mr. Mojo Risin

    never was supportive towards abortion. I find it disgusting if its used just as a form of birth control. If anything the reason I would find reasonable was if the mother or baby would be in situation where their lives are threatened or if they know the quality of the babies life is going to be horrible. Emergency Cases, other than that I dont support it.
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  11. smilemani

    smilemani Well-Known Member

    I'm pro life all the way.
    meaning that I'm
    Anti Abortion
    Anti Death Penalty
    I believe that in a society like ours
    we have the obligation to protect
    the smallest that can't protect them selves.
    Also, who are we to take someones life?
    Lock the fucker up in a 7x6 room for the
    rest of his life with no outside contact.
    Sounds reasonable no?
    But for sure anti contraceptives should be
    used at all time, but if you wanna fuck, you
    gots to take the responsibility.
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  12. Anepitaph

    Anepitaph Mr. Mojo Risin

  13. Raidenator

    Raidenator Lurker

    Seems I'm part of the minority here, but I'm still pretty pro-choice. Those types of videos are made as propaganda, and while it was disgusting and horrid, it doesn't change my opinion.

    I'm not gonna debate my opinion here, but I believe in abortions up until the point that someone gets an abortion simply because they're using it like birth control. But even still, I would allow "birth control" for about a month I think.
  14. Butterz

    Butterz Well-Known Member

    I don't see it as propoganda. I see it as a video of an abortion, an unborn child being ripped out of it's mother and killed before it has a chance to be born naturally.

    See, if you kill the kid before it's naturally born, then legally it's not 'murder'...lol

    I agree, it is disgusting and horrid. It doesn't change my opinion either. Disgusting and horrid acts against innocent children shouldn't be legal.
  15. Butterz

    Butterz Well-Known Member

    Couldn't agree more. No human has the right to put another to death, interrupting or ending a person's life is wrong.

    The death penalty robs both the victim and the criminal. It's just another 'convenience' this society uses to make unpleasant things go away. Let's keep it all rainbows and gumdrops! lol

    Same goes for abortion. We kill an innocent child so we're not inconvenienced with the reality that in addition to feeling really good, sex also is the means for human pro-creation.
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  16. hazy_cloud

    hazy_cloud Photography Girl

    I agree with you both. Abortion I feel is murder and I could never even think of doing such an act (I didn't even watch the video and don't think I could) and the death penalty just lets criminals off too easy for their crimes. I'm happy Canada doesn't have it here.
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  17. SurfSarge

    SurfSarge misfit

    The older I grow the more I'm against abortion it's sickening..I've been thru it before with a girl we were both really young and scared which is no excuse because there's always adoption.The worst case scenario is a girl being raped..I could understand why she'd want an abortion..
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  18. Raidenator

    Raidenator Lurker

    I see it as propaganda the same way I see those Peta videos. The bottom line is that it doesn't change my mind. I hate to see it, and I think it's absolutely horrible, but I stand by my decision.

    Personally I would never allow an abortion within the scope of my own decision, but I don't think the right to have them should be taken away.
  19. Butterz

    Butterz Well-Known Member

    I don't understand that logic, but to each his own. Agree to disagree.
  20. Raidenator

    Raidenator Lurker

    Well what I mean to say is that I don't support abortion, I support the choice to have an abortion, within reason.

    It's like many people don't support or own guns, but believe in the ability for people to have them because of their rights.
  21. Dennis

    Dennis R.I.P.

    The video was a disgusting portrait of murder.
    I don't believe in abortion except in the following cases.
    Rape, incest, and when the womans life is in jeapordy.

  22. Spleen

    Spleen Well-Known Member

    Pro Choice

    Raid is right, just propaganda. It's pretty grim, but I doubt videos of cutting out other parasites are any prettier to watch.
  23. Butterz

    Butterz Well-Known Member

    Confusing a human being with a parasite is your first mistake. I believe we had this same lame discussion at the piss farm, guess it didn't take.

    Pro Choice...interesting term, since the victim has no choice in the matter.

    Shell shock to battle fatigue to post traumatic stress disorder....
    Murder to abortion to pro-choice...

    Changing what you call it doesn't change what it is, it just makes selfish people feel less self absorbed by giving it a soft, gently term. It's still murder, can't change that.
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  24. Butterz

    Butterz Well-Known Member

    I support the right for people to OWN guns. I support the right for people to OWN coat hangers. I don't support the right for people to use those guns to kill innocent people and I don't support the right for people to use coat hangers or any medical device to kill innocent people.

    It takes a bullet and someone using that gun to kill...and if done in any other manner than self-defense, it's murder...just like abortion. Same intent, same outcome, different laws used to shut up bleeding heart liberals during the Woman's Movement of the late 60's - early 70's.
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  25. SurfSarge

    SurfSarge misfit

    Holyshit look what the abortions drug in..Welcome back dude!